2016台湾青少年领袖高峰会第二天早上，韩哲克(中层左图)分享「热情」讲题后，由大会顾问谢智谋(中层右图)老师回应。 (摄影/记者蔡宜倩)

▲追求热情，往往遇到障碍，却也成就最多！
▲热情比兴趣更深！　点燃我们付上牺牲代价的火花

没有人因为年纪太小，而无法产生改变；没有人因为採取的行动太渺小，而不能产生改变。

我们的世界充满受苦的事情，绝对不缺值得关怀的问题。那是我渴望活出来的生活与世界。这个世界正在等着你。

2016台湾青少年领袖高峰会来到第二天上午，续由重量级讲员－国际知名青年领袖韩哲克分享正、反两则实际故事，以「在这世上，每件成功的事情背后的推动力与核心」为题，深入浅出替200名学员点燃对人生梦想的热情。

【在这世上，每件成功的事情背后的推动力－热情】

在这世上，每件成功的事情背后的推动力与核心。有些人称它为「目的」，我称之为「热情」。
 
▲24小时喝完近200间星巴克的马克

首先跟大家分享马克的故事。马克做两个月的研究，打算在24小时内，拜访纽约一个地区内共171间星巴克。
 
他不可能在24小时内，徒步走那么多地方，所以他买了一台便宜的脚踏车。他也去到不同的店，看谁是最早、最晚开门，以及哪家店有最长的排队人潮动线。那天起，他早上4点鐘就骑脚踏车出门了。 他算了一下发现，必须每7分鐘就到达另一间的星巴克，才能在24小时内完成这个目标；他也决定每间店都要点一些东西来吃或喝。
 
其中有一间店，已经过了他的营业时间，他只好贿赂店员80元美金，才能进去吃点东西。甚至有一段时间，他必须找他的朋友出来载他一下，因为他的身体快负荷不住，因为整天太累、喝太多咖啡。
 
终于，马克在第二天清晨四点鐘，回到家，很快地睡着了。
 
很有趣的是，他后来接受CNN访问时说：「事实上，我根本不喝咖啡。」所以这听来相当疯狂。

令我惊讶的是，当纽约媒体访问该区星巴克发言人，对于马克的「特技」有何想法时，他说：「我们讚赏他的热情，也为他的创意及委身来喝采。」
 
他因为有热情而出名，他的热情是什么呢？他不是对咖啡热情，因为他说他根本不喜欢喝咖啡，但他那天至少喝了100杯，同时获得很多知名度。
 
▲让人出名的兴趣是一种「误导的热情」

然而，我要称之为「误导的热情」，或是「让他出名15分鐘的『兴趣』」。

他在世上出名了15分鐘，但我想问的是：他到底成就了什么呢？我承认，他的故事很有趣；但我想，如果他能同样地在一天内，拜访纽约171间最大的慈善组织，做更多事情帮助别人的话，是否更有意义？
 
如果他能够把这看起来有点愚蠢的事，去做些帮助别人的事情的话，是否更有意义？
 
一开始，我觉得他对于热情，设立了一个很好的榜样。但当我进一步研究才发现，他是一位正在窜起的喜剧演员兼製片。
 
热情，似乎是他个人的兴趣，让他获取名声、并在演艺路上更上层楼。

这看来是有点愚蠢的例子，但我想：有时我们喜欢做的、有兴趣的事，是否就因它好玩，所以我们就这么做了？

▲热情比兴趣更深！　点燃我们付上牺牲代价的火花

我相信，言语是有它的力量跟意义，我也相信，兴趣跟热情之间，是有差异的。
 
兴趣是个人的情感、你喜欢的东西。这不是坏事，但并不是什么很伟大的事。人们对很多事情有兴趣，但可能是琐碎的事情。
 
一则分辨热情跟兴趣的好指标就是，你愿不愿意为它牺牲你的时间或金钱？你愿不愿只是为了兴趣，付上你的时间、金钱，甚至生命？我想答案一定是「不」。
 
那么，热情到底是什么？热情跟兴趣的差别在哪？怎样才能拥有热情？
 
我相信，不同的人对于「热情」有不同的定义。

热情，比兴趣的层面更深，甚至会驱动我们，做出在这世上应当行出来的事；热情，是我们裡面很深的感受，驱动我们做出牺牲，来完成应该完成的事。

热情， 不可能从自己灵魂的井裡面，往裡挖深点就能挖到；也不可能今晚睡觉想说：「我再努力点，明天早上就会有热情。」因为，热情或目的比个人感受，还要更深刻。
 
热情，是当有一些讯息的火花，或是一个有热情的人靠近你，来点燃裡面的火花，让它成为火焰。热情是易燃的，当有热情的人聚在一起时，会燃得更旺。
 
不过有时候，热情会跟众人意见或期望，背道而驰－这可能会让我们为了某些人事站立。
 
热情，并不是说我喜欢什么很好玩的事情。很多跟我同龄或比我更小的人，我们很有热情的事情，其实只能当个兴趣就好；而我们觉得有兴趣的事情，应该带着热情来做。
 
在我的世代，我们有脸书等各式社群媒体，或各式各样我们感兴趣、兴奋的事情，或者某些争执的事情，事实上可能都是一些琐碎的小事。这是一个充满很多「兴趣」的世代，但我们是很有潜力，来点燃我们的热情。
 
我想请问大家：你想要热情吗？你希望早上起来时，对人生感到兴奋吗？你渴望激发别人做出伟大的事吗？你期待为着某件事情，兴奋到睡不着觉吗？我的答案都是「是」，我盼望你的答案也是如此。

▲棕眼的小女孩，一直祷告上帝想要蓝色的眼睛

所有曾经改变世界的人都是有热情的，很少有人非常成功却不关心其他人的事。

有一个爱尔兰名叫爱美(Amy)的小女孩，她出生在19世纪末期，一个虔诚基督徒家庭裡。从小她就希望：「要是我的眼睛是蓝色，该有多好？！」但她的眼睛是棕色。
 
妈妈跟她说：「妳需要什么，就跟上帝求。」上帝会照合适妳的，来应允妳。这听来有点怪，但她如此深信着。
 
有天晚上睡前，她跪下虔诚祷告：「喔主啊！明天早上，让我的眼精就能像蔚蓝的、微笑爱尔兰的天空吧。」

第二天早上起来，她非常兴奋跑到镜子前一看，却还是棕色眼睛。她觉得这实在令她太痛苦了。儘管如此，她当时虽不知道，可这件事情却影响到她人生日后一件重大发展的事。
 
在成长过程中，她也经歷过一些困难，患上一个特别的疾病－神经痛，一发作时全身痛得有如刀割。她的病让她没有办法继续工作，也导致她的家庭倾家荡产，因而搬到别的城市去，为她筹措医药费。
 
虽然她的家庭过得并不容易，她仍决定出去，帮助比她家更穷困的人；她的心特别关顾身处极度贫穷的人。
 
好多次，她做了同样的梦，梦裡面有如同靠近她床边的声音对她说：「去！」她因而去到很多地方，后来到了世界另一端－印度。

那裡，很多女孩子被父母亲卖到庙裡当奴隶，被欺凌得相当厉害。她决定为了正义的缘故，解救这些女孩脱离这种悲惨的生活。
 
在19世纪的印度，白人女性不大可能在街上走路，而不引起注意。所以她穿上印度妇女传统服饰－纱丽，使用茶包把自己的肤色变深。此时，她也终于知道，小时候一直祷告：「主啊，给我蓝色的眼球。」那是一个错误的祷告。
 
因为她的棕色眼球，让她更容易混在印度人群中，而不被发现。如果她是金髮碧眼的话，很快就会被发现了。她终于明白，以前她不喜欢自己的棕色眼球，事实上是一份「上帝的礼物」。
 
她因而拯救了数以百计的男孩、女孩，他们都叫他「妈妈」。她以这样温柔的爱，照顾这些小孩。

▲追求热情，往往遇到障碍，却也成就最多－力量、品格

每个人都觉得自己有弱点，在我们追求热情过程中，都会遇到障碍。这些弱点，可能会拦阻我们，让我们无法做到本来应该要做的事情，来改变世界。不过，塬本拥有许多困难或软弱的人们，透过努力的过程中，这些人却成就了最多。
 
我们看到名人、电影明星、政治家，以为他们已经达到他们渴望完成的目标。但事实上，我们往往在克服软弱中，得着力量，从而建立品格。
 
品格帮助我们建立自己，也帮助别人。
 
我非常确信，当热情来自我们塬来的软弱或不容易时，所成就的将是－任何人无法否认或忽视的。我就是活生生的证明。
 
我还是孩童时，我有非常严重的焦虑症。当恐慌发作时，我的心跳会非常快，觉得病得很厉害，甚至觉得快要死掉了。因为太惧怕了，可能没有任何塬因，我就是怕到整个人会倒在地上，动弹不得。

这是我当时必须要经歷的事情。我找到一些人谈这件事情，我后来也成长得更好。

我最大的惧怕，就是在众人面前跟大家说话。后来事情发展的是－当我处理这样的焦虑跟惧怕过后了解到，这世上仍有2700万人活在奴隶中。
 
我觉得我该做些事，但我想说：「我算老几？怎可能在大家面前讲这些事情？」于是决定根据我塬来的兴趣，关心这些有需要的人，往前一步採取行动帮助他们。

▲带出行动！　没有人因行动太渺小，就不能产生改变

所以，兴趣跟热情差别在哪裡？就是「行动」。
 
我相信，当我们愿意为了「热情」採取行动时，不论是付出金钱、接受教育或跟周围朋友分享，都能让这个世界不再一样。没有人因为年纪太小，而无法产生改变；没有人因为採取的行动太渺小，而不能产生改变。

一次一小步、一次一小步，到后来发现我们这一生，已经走了很远的路了。
 
为了热情而活，这样的人生旅程会令人非常兴奋。你愿意加入我吗？
 
我们的世界充满受苦的事情，绝对不缺值得关怀的问题。那是我渴望活出来的生活与世界。这个世界正在等着你。

【韩哲克英文演讲全文－PASSION】

What I want to talk about today is the core, driving force behind every successful human being on earth. Some people call this “purpose”, I call it “passion.”

I would like to tell you a story about someone named Mark. Mark spent two months planning to take 24 hours to visit all 171 Starbucks coffee shops in Manhattan, New York that are open to the public. He bought a cheap bike (because, of course, he couldn’t reach all 171 coffee shops on foot), and he went to many of the stores to research closing and opening times, as well as which ones had the longest lines. The day he began, he woke up at about 4:30 a.m., and started biking. He figured out that he had to arrive at a different Starbucks every seven minutes during those twenty hours, and he had to consume at least part of what he ordered while in the store to accomplish his goal. At one of the stores, he showed up four minutes after closing time, and had to bribe a worker eighty dollars to let him in. At one point, he even had to have a friend of his come and drive him around because his body was shutting down from the overexertion and the caffeine consumption.

Mark said that he got home at about 4 a.m. the next day and fell asleep at 7 a.m. By the way, on CNN he said, “I actually don’t drink coffee, which makes this thing completely insane.” What really struck me was the reaction of Dan Lewis, the Starbucks spokesperson of that region. When he was asked in a New York Daily News interview about Mark’s stunt he said, “We appreciate Mark’s passion, and we applaud his creativity and commitment.” So now he’s famous for being passionate, but what is he passionate about? Coffee? He said he doesn’t even drink coffee. This is what I would call a misguided passion – or an interest in his 15 minutes of fame.

Well, for a short time,  Mark was famous, but what did he accomplish? I must admit, his story sounds amusing, but wouldn’t it have been better to maybe have gone to 171 of Manhattan’s biggest organizations and raise money to do some good? What if someone like him who had the drive to do something his friends said was impossible – something that might even appear foolish -- decided to tackle something for the good of others? At first, I thought that he set a good example of what passion or drive looks like, but as I dug deeper I learned he was an aspiring comedian and filmmaker.  His “passion” turned out to really be an interest in getting some attention that might help launch his career.

I wonder if sometimes we embrace something as an interest or passion just because it’s odd, or just because it will get us attention, or just because.

I believe words have meaning and power.  I think there is a difference between interest and passion. Interest is purely emotional or intellectual; purely human. It’s not a bad thing necessarily, but it is not necessarily good either. People are interested in many things – and many of them are trivial and small.

One good way to measure whether something is an interest or a passion, is to ask would I sacrifice for my interests? Would I give away money and time and blood to a cause that I merely express interest in?” I think the answer is no.

So, what is passion, really? And if it’s different from interest, and interest is a human feeling, then where does passion come from? I’m sure others may have a different definition of passion, and they’ve probably lived more years than I and have greater wisdom, but for our purpose today, let’s consider that passion is deeper than interest.  Let’s even say that our passion drives us to do our life’s work – the very thing we may be on this earth for. It is a stirring deep in us that moves us to make sacrifices to further that passion.  You can’t just dig down deep inside and try to somehow draw out passion from the well of your soul.  You can’t go to bed tonight hoping that if you try hard enough you will be more passionate tomorrow, because passion is so much more than a simple, human feeling. 

Passion is ignited when a spark of information – or someone else’s passion – gets close enough to your heart to cause your passion to burst into flame. Passion is flammable and it tends to grow when the flames are gathered together.

Sometimes, passion may require going against the grain, against the opinions of many others. It might result in us sticking up for something or someone no matter what the cost. Passion, unlike interest, does not come from merely liking something or having fun while doing it. Passion is ultimately being willing to give up something of ourselves – our time, our resources, our comfort, for something or someone.

It sometimes seems that the things people my age and younger are passionate about are things that we should simply be interested in, and the things that we are interested in are things that we should truly be passionate about. Think about the social media life of my generation (and perhaps many of you as well.) The things we get excited about – the things we spend our energy on – the things we argue about may be very petty. Sometimes we need to turn it upside down. We need to be passionate about the things that matter, and interested in the things that are temporary. My generation is a very interested generation, but we have such amazing potential for passion.

Do you want to be passionate? Do you want to be excited to wake up  in the morning? Do you want to inspire others to greatness? Do you wish you were so excited about a project or a purpose that you had a hard time getting to sleep at night?  I know my answer is yes to each of these questions. I hope yours is, too. If you’ll stick with me through this talk I think you’ll find these stories will ignite a passion within you.

Anyone. who has ever changed the world has been passionate. There are very few people who have been wildly successful or helped a lot of people without it being something they care about very deeply. Here’s an example. There once was a little Irish girl named Amy. Amy Carmichael grew up in the late 1800s as the oldest daughter of two devout Christians in Ireland. As a little girl, Amy desperately wanted blue eyes, but her eyes were brown. She had been taught by her mother that if she prayed, God would answer – I know this may sound strange to some of you, but this was Amy’s deeply held belief. So one night, before bed, Amy prayed that God would give her eyes of “smiling Irish blue.” In the morning, she expectantly hopped out of bed and ran to the mirror only to find out that her eyes were still brown. And she was devastated. This ended up playing a very important part in her story later on.

Amy struggled with a sickness called neuralgia – a disease of the nervous system that resulted in moments of sharp, stabbing pain.  Her illness made it hard for her to work, and her family continued to struggle financially, forcing them to move to try to find a better situation.  Even while her own family was having difficulty, Amy felt as though she should go out into the world and help the poor. Her heart was heavily burdened for those who suffered under the weight of extreme poverty. She said she had dreams of a voice, as loud as if he was standing besides her telling her to “Go.”

She traveled around a bit, eventually ending up in India. There, she learned that many girls were sold by their families, or just given up to the temples to serve as slaves and treated terribly. She made a decision to start rescuing these children from slavery, dedicating her life to seeking Justice.

Now here’s the interesting part: in India, it would be hard for a white, Irish person to move about without drawing attention to herself. So Amy wore a Sari, the traditional dress of women in india and dyed her skin darker with tea bags. Amy realized that when she had prayed years earlier and asked for blue eyes, she’d been praying for the wrong thing. Her brown eyes made her disguise more convincing.  If she would have had blue eyes, she would have been easy to spot and wouldn’t have been able to rescue anybody. She began to understand that her brown eyes were a gift.

Amy rescued or cared for hundreds of girls and boys who had been abused and oppressed throughout her lifetime. All of them called her Amma- which means mother. They were all her children, and she took care of them with that kind of tender care.

What I think is very interesting is that, all of us have weaknesses. All of us have obstacles that we feel get in the way of us pursuing a passion, doing something to change the world, or being successful. One thing that I’ve found incredibly encouraging is that, people who may view themselves as challenged or flawed have always, since the beginning of time, been the ones who achieve the most. We may look at famous people, movie stars, athletes, business people, and say that they have everything figured out.

The truth is, it is often through finding strength in our weakness that we build character. And character prepares us to serve and to pour out ourselves out for others . I know for certain that when a passion comes out of weakness and suffering, it is very hard to deny that something special is happening.

I am proof of this. I want to tell you something very personal and I hope it is encouraging to you. As a child, I used to struggle with anxiety. It was something that was very serious for me. I would have panic attacks where my heart would start racing and I would feel like I was sick or even dying, laying on the floor and being unable to move out of fear, really for no reason. This was something that I had to work through. I found someone to talk with about it and got help, so I could grow better, but one of my biggest fears was being embarrassed in front of a group of people. You can probably see where this is going. Who was I to do something like this – speaking in front of people around the world? The kid with the anxiety disorder. Yet, I chose to take that step, to do something with my interest, and so many good things have come out of it

So what is the difference between interest and passion?

Quite simply: it’s action. It’s action.

I believe that when we care about something, and then act on it, whether we are giving money, getting educated, give our time or tell a friend. One small action can start a whole pattern of bigger actions that result in lifelong change. No one and no action is too small to make a difference. When we take that one step, and then another, and then another, we may find ourselves on a journey of a lifetime, living for a reason, and living with a passion.  That’s the kind of life I long to live. Will you join me? Our world is full of suffering, there is no shortage of problems to be solved. The world is waiting for you.

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